tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2399626414603781513.post9029049247943067804..comments2023-11-05T00:25:53.153-07:00Comments on Jon Davies Severe Weather Notes: An essay by Shawna Davies on media & public response problems in Oklahoma City on May 31, 2013Jon Davieshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14044746324804312344noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2399626414603781513.post-76655016317901496762016-03-08T17:54:18.457-08:002016-03-08T17:54:18.457-08:00I do not criticize NWS Wichita, but if you said th...I do not criticize NWS Wichita, but if you said that they said that, then I will criticize it. They should not even have a term "Tornado Emergency" – they should not say anything about a tornado emergency. When Andra did it, it was critical in getting the general public to snap out if it and get to shelter. But NWS HQ started saying Tornado Emergency because the said to the WSO that the can say it and I new we were in trouble when I heard Amarillo give a Tornado Emergency for Panhandle, TX (I think it was right after HQ said to say it was far game - 00/01?) and it was a lumbering F0/F1 that did not come into town and what like 5 mi away and EVERYONE knew about it and it disapated and just tore of Mesquite Trees. They tested it... I do not know the numbers, but it is supposed to be doing damage in a metro area (not Panhandle) and they counted and not even half (I think was less actually) did damage. They get more and more terms that really do "nothing" including "magic words" like Kansas City is sticking in. What would you do if a "damaging tornado" was hitting you house and a "devastating tornado" would hit your house? Will you move the house? Situational Awareness really doesn't have anything to do with that. It depends on more so what you can do (elderly, handicapped, very young really cannot get anywhere) or people that really get the message and do nothing. I want to know how many fatalities get killed that would have a chance to save themselves? You can't. But in Tornado Alley or even Dixie Alley, most people (if it is when there not sleeping (nocturnal have some things that I can tell you about later) now about it. I think going back 20 years, the supermajority knows about it. They should take Tornado Energency out of "anybody can say it) and put it on a back burner to be used sparingly. But, A private entity – including The Weather Channel, Accuweather, Weather Underground, a TV station, Bill's Tornado Emporium – cannot say the Watch/Warning protocol. There should be one agency doing it and it is the NWS/SPC. You can tell everyone and you should tell everyone that there is a Warning for that parabola in the state where you have customers. But you cannot do it and there is a bunch of reason, but primarily because there is one sole source for warnings. You do not want to have conflicted warning. And I can sue anybody that does it privately when the give them out to the general public or even a special open-group. But, I can speak for her, but she did not know about it? I did not know about it. But I do not think that it should be issues (Tornado Emergency) anyway. But you as a private entity CANNOT. Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09697119034700699803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2399626414603781513.post-53683508107169609092014-05-03T10:22:30.456-07:002014-05-03T10:22:30.456-07:00I have noticed that you don't have a facebook ...I have noticed that you don't have a facebook page. I have also noticed that there has been no recent activity here. I find that your knowledge is very helpful and saw some of your shows Tornado Road last night for the first time. I'm sure there are other people that don't know about you out here. Don't stop keeping us informed and teaching us :) Karen in Virginia (Formerly NW Arkansas)klh320https://www.blogger.com/profile/06982864925887200652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2399626414603781513.post-34004053630620336202013-07-22T21:48:54.916-07:002013-07-22T21:48:54.916-07:00long time okies have told me they have always know...long time okies have told me they have always know to not flee but when he said that, too many people panicked. THEY panicked even though they knew better. people were scared after Moore only 11 days before. it's was pants shitting scary, i went through it. i wish we would start focusing again on teaching the public the best safety choices, instead of glorifying storms.puckchkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18428070863439211878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2399626414603781513.post-16357762433380596972013-07-16T13:58:47.370-07:002013-07-16T13:58:47.370-07:00Thank you Karin for the kind comments…
To Mr. Sm...Thank you Karin for the kind comments… <br /><br />To Mr. Smith, if you thoroughly read my essay, although I did criticize Mr. Morgan for giving over-zealous warnings, I also defended the REASON why he possibly did so, and I do feel badly for him. I watched his complete coverage of the May 20, 2013 Moore tornado and felt he did an excellent job that day. I stated that perhaps he was “overwhelmed or exhausted” from that event, which may be why he told people on-air to flee and “go south” on May 31, 2013. I also stated more than once that it is up to the public to prepare and know what to do BEFORE severe weather happens, and then act accordingly when it occurs. Regarding the May 19, 2013 warnings for Wichita from NWS; you should know as much (or more than) most meteorologists (on-air and private) that the public usually does not hear or pay attention to NWS “call-to-action” statements unless they have a weather radio. The majority of people respond to warnings and “calls-to-action” from MEDIA relayed at EACH STATION’S OWN DISCRETION based on NWS or their own spotter/radar information. Were the warnings from ICT NWS over-zealous? Possibly… But, nobody died from that event, and there was no mass exodus from the city based on a TV met’s suggestion to flee. Now, if KSNW, KAKE, or KWCH in Wichita explicitly told people to flee that afternoon and there was a resulting traffic jam, or if you have any knowledge of people dying from doing so; please provide it to me and I will absolutely address it! Otherwise, this debate on how NWS words their warnings and call-to-action statements needs to stay within the meteorological and social research community until a concise conclusion is agreed upon and then enforced. That said, thank you very much for reading my essay and I wish you well.<br /><br />Shawna Davies<br />Shawnahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07808782338909492876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2399626414603781513.post-14946967092053894932013-07-13T12:38:47.095-07:002013-07-13T12:38:47.095-07:00Hi Shawna,
Am curious why you didn't criticiz...Hi Shawna,<br /><br />Am curious why you didn't criticize the National Weather Service for giving the same advice to the people of Wichita during the May 19, 2013, Clearwater tornado?<br /><br />Unfortunately, I can't post the "tornado emergency" warning but it explicitly said, "Consider moving to an underground shelter elsewhere" and "you could be killed if not underground."<br /><br />It seems to me that you are going to criticize Mike Morgan you should also criticize the NWS.<br /><br />MikeMike Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17435605216805307424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2399626414603781513.post-9196235914982061092013-06-24T22:47:14.850-07:002013-06-24T22:47:14.850-07:00Great essay. Thanks for posting.Great essay. Thanks for posting.Karinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671559132401302596noreply@blogger.com